When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. Another way to do this is to just turn down your thermostat. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. It does heat evenly. that I happen to agree with. ductwork loses a lot of energy if it is in unheated areas (your attic, your basement, etc.) Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. Would i buy this. I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard. 2 Guys with a beard does not equal credibility. Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. Zero marketing at that point. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. You are dead wrong pilgrim. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. The criticism must have impelled these heater hucksters of Suarez Corporation Industries (which peddles both the "Amish"Heat Surge heaters and the Eden Pure heater) to back off the fable about Jones and his "cured copper." Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Jones was last found registered under his obviously fictional name in a cheap motel in the company of a dubious woman. up. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. Why do you think they would do that? I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. My last post was cut off - 2) A btu is a btu 1500 watts is 5100 btu's .That is all you can put on a 120 volt 15 amp curcuit . Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. For the same heat output, electrical heaters are way more expensive than heating with a fuel like natural gas. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. I WAS FREEZING. bl. Inventors: Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Price? It costs me about $2.00 per day to heat my house with Eden Pure. However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. As for bob vila. They don't claim it will save you money. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. He went to the furnace room and found it comfortably warm, which he attributed to the retention and re-radiation of heat from a sheet of "cured copper" stored there. Unh uh !! It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. So, for this is is great. Would i recommend them? Hi everyone . Sale price $247.00 Sale. Set in rural Ohio, the birthplace of football, a small-town high school football team rises to play their cross-town rival, a perennial powerhouse, while standing up for an entire community. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. Shame--big time--on Bob Vila, since he HAS to know better. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. Only if you needed this type Of heater. perputhen live stream / joshua andrews obituary. Services may be provided by Western Union Financial Services, Inc. NMLS# 906983 and/or Western Union International Services, LLC NMLS# 906985, which are licensed as Money Transmitters by the New York State Department of Financial Services. But remember Edenpure didn't directly claim they would save you money, that was just the testimonials that they scattered throughout the infomercial which claimed savings. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free USA. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. cold in massachusetts on January 12, 2011: where can you run a 1500 watt heater all night for $0.23? I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! The problem with this, of course, is that you are not saving money by heating the house more efficiently. Many heaters like EdenPure claim to "Cut your heating bills in half!". I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Nothing is 100% efficient. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. I wonder how much Edenpure payed Bob Vila to get on television and tell all these lies about the Gen 4 heaters? I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Go to the Home Depot, Lowe's, Cosco etc., and choose the heater out of couple of dozens designs they have there. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. The patently false claim of the alleged benefits of "cured copper" has been widely discussed and deservedly ridiculed in blogs and forums. I love it. Are Eden pure trying to rip you off. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. are surprised when they experience comfortable, cost-efficiently operating systems in other manufactured homes. zp. Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? Common sense. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. This has been disputed. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. Thanks. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. The cost was going to be $10,000. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Unfortunately, most don't pay enough attention or don't care about the consumer. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. If you sheeple need to believe otherwise, so be it. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Coo-coo ka-choo, Mrs. Robinson, Mr.Jones has left and gone away, hey, hey, hey." Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems claims of a US-1000 or Gen4 having 20,000 hour bulb life contains as much truth as a politicians typical campaign speech. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. Out of stock at this time though. to produce those BTUs. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. My central gas system is currently broken beyond repair, and until I can install a new system, I am heating every room with electric space heaters, and here in the cold mountains, it's running $300-$400/month (yes, I know, it's temporary madness). Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. Your info states 1000 cubic ft but the edenpure.com states 1000 sq ft. you also do no state the type of heaters being compared so this is not an apples to apples comparision just a guess. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. If I was Bob Vila I would not put my name on the product if they cannot get anyone to anwser the customer service number or even return your calls. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. And, regardless of what someone said about 1500 watts is 1500 watts and is going to heat the same area, that is not what I have read and have posted (copied and pasted from advertisements). EdenPURE Classic CopperPLUS Heater $272.00 $399.00 Best Sellers EdenPURE 3000 Whole House Air Purifier by AirFree $299.00 $374.00 EdenPURE GEN50 Infrared Heater $297.00 $399.00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247.00 $447.00 EdenPURE Bio SpeedCLEAN Cordless Vac - Model XL200 $249.00 $299.00 EdenPURE GEN21 EdenPURE All Season Heater $279.00 $447.00 I'll tell you a secretyou can eliminate your heating bills! so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. Earlier this month, Bill Burkett, a retired lieutenant colonel in the Texas National Guard and the man who provided CBS producers with the controversial documents at the heart of the "60. Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. The peddlers of these overpriced 1500-watt heaters such as Edenpure and the highly-advertised "Amish" heaters are ripping off many gullible folks who are seeking ways to save on energy costs. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. I called the company so I could exchane it but I have to pay shipping. Lowering your home's thermostat (s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heating will cut your utility bill. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. I am ashamed that, as a scientist I didn't think through the physics of Edenpure's claims. If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. Unplugged edenpure. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. I was dumb enough to fall for this scam. So, all is not equal definitely. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) We bought edenpure in September. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! Edenpure heaters are a scam. Though I dont know why you would want to. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. But if you're going to buy a space heater, you don't have to shell out $400 or more for the EdenPure Gen 3 Model 1000. Of course, I was always skeptical, since their full page ads with lots and lots of "information" never mentions the heat output of the unit nor how much electricity it consumes. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. Hogwash. Buyer beware ! I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. We have found that if you turn the heater on and just leave it alone, it really does a great job. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. less per month power bill. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. ft. My electric bill actually increased. But keep in mind that based on current national average prices and adjusting for the energy losses due to burning a fuel, heating with electricity is about two and a half times more expensive than heating with gas, the most common heating fuel in this country. But this time, not only do they have Bob Vila promoting the device, they've added Al from Home Improvement! Even a child knows that hot air rises. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. When Eric "Hoovey" Elliott, a promising basketball player, collapses on the court, doctors find a life threatening tumour in his brain. Nothing has changed. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . Now she is crying the blues because she could have applied the outrageous price of the heaters and their exhorbitant use of electricity, to her regular heat bill. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. The story is that Jones' furnace went off in his big drafty farm house. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. KALAMAZOO/PORTAGE heating & air conditioning/hvac. That's common sense. Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. Process for forming coal compact without a binder Patent number: 5658357 A UNIT is $1000. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. bill burkett heaters. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. . The clue is in the word personal . Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. 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